INTERVIEW
APP: Hi, Barbara, thought I give you a ring and ask how its going.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Thanks, how are you?
APP: I'm curious – as always… What are you up to these days?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I can't talk about details as it would be exploited by my stalkers. I left alt.religion.scientolology (ARS) last year because I got sick and tired of interacting with libelers and stalkers. Posting there is such a trap. All that you get there are cyberstalkers. It is such a destructive waste of time. I have a blog now and like it a lot better than posting in the same forum with criminal creeps.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I wish. Despite that I left ARS last year, I learned that stalker Neal Warren (aka Gregory Hall and his many socks) from Islamorada, Florida posts almost every day libel and defamation against me on ARS.
This bum is utterly disturbed and he harasses and trolls on Usenet and other C of S related forums 24/7. That is his "work" and his social life! I also believe that he is an Alcoholic and probably will die soon on liver cancer. He retaliates because I don't want to become his "helpmate". I don’t want to have anything to do with the perverted and criminal bum. He is a dirty old man and he ran the URL of my blog through a harassing web application called Pornolizer and campaigns and lies on Usenet that HIS PORN VERSION of my blog would be my blog. He calls his stalking and harassment of me and his lies about me his "freedom of speech". He also posts remailers on ARS, talks to them as I would have posted them and he forges me too. He is disturbed prison material... His pornolized version of my blog isn't funny, it is just very primitive like he is...
APP: May I say something?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Not yet. Warren posts anonymous remailers on Usenet, saying how brilliant he (his alias Gregory Hall) is. He thinks people are stupid and won't get that the only person who posts these flattering postings on himself is himself. He hopes that his victims will forget the personal bad experiences that they had with him, the dummy, abuser and that his abuse suddenly doesn't count anymore. I have met stupid men in the past, but I believe he tops them all as far as stupidity is concerned. He wants me to have amnesia as to what he did and still does to me. He also sometimes attacks himself in remailer postings and then replies TO HIS OWN REMAILER POSTING: "I know, Barbarella, you can't stay away from me." This man disgusts me. When I post: Leave me alone, man, he twists everything around and posts something like: "She loves me, she is stalking me!" What a disgusting worthless animal that man is. Smart men are kind to women. He emailed me once what a great independent woman I would be and that he would attract only the dependable type. He doesn't attract any woman! On Usenet he posts that he wants a dependable woman (that serves him) and doesn't get any. I told him to never e-mail me again and to stay way from my blog but he still posts abusive comments with proxies to my blog. He is also a Peeping Tom and spies on undressed women in his area. He has a female sock puppets called "Lady Pilot". He defamed and attacked me with this sock puppet and other vile sock puppets beyond belief and thinks that I would think it is somebody else. His hostile style and so much more gave him away. Sometimes he uses an anonymous remailer and posts something extremely libelous about a woman, then he "comes to the rescue" of the woman that he just maliciously attacked by "correcting" the anonymous remailer posting that he himself just posted. And that should make the woman fall for him. He tried any trick in the book except honesty and decency. He says he is a former Catholic and now a Baptist. Shame on these churches that failed to make that animal into a human being. The incomprehensible thing is that with all that rotten behavior, he doesn't understand that he is the last person I ever want to meet. He spreads deliberate falsehoods in anonymous remailers about me using my real name and then "scolds" his own anonymous posting with his usual sock Gregory Hall, and this is his "alibi" that he was not the person who published the libel under my real name. That man's IQ is lower than that of a cockroach. That should make me fall in love with him, except that I know that he did the remailer posting too! He thinks he can commit crimes against women and they don't get it. He is the dumbest man who was ever born by thinking that women like jerks, obnoxious characters, stalkers and abusers. Women like good and smart men with manners not dumb animals as he is one. This man was alone all his life because he is too retarded to understand that no woman wants to be abused by him and serve a homeless intoxicated bum. He thinks that God is a sexist and made women to be the property of perverted men like himself. His ideas are disgusting. His is Taliban material. This is how he treats women! And any woman is smarter than he is. He interprets the Bible literally but doesn't mind using avatars as AntiChristus in another forum. He is blaming his loneliness and even his ED on the fact that women can't stand him and not on his abusive bum personality and his lack of health. Lately, he runs a campaign that I am a lesbian because I don't want to be with him. I am anything but a lesbian. I am a woman that doesn't need or want bums or stalkers in her life. I am not available and don't want this old stinky criminal Alcoholic bum. He also forges Marty Rathbun under "Martyrathbun10" in a Wordpress blog by mixing two person with that name together. He lies that I am "a bag lady". I have a very nice home with all sanitary equipment. HE IS THE HOMELESS BUM! He tells people that he doesn't has the stomach to read my blog but he is clicking at it sometimes over 100 times a day! He is the most obsessed man ever. He is so obsessed and has such a deep hatred against women that I think he is capable of murdering women. I made the mistake being friendly to him like I am to anybody else before I knew that he is a disturbed stalker. But I sure never made this man (many years older than me) any hopes. I posted with an ID that said that I love Marty, he has no excuse for what he is doing to me. Somebody called him the 4th Stooge. Not me, I call him what really he is: a criminal stalker and disturbed abuser who should be behind bars. He also indicated that he is violent towards women and would beat them to "make them obedient" to him. If this guy ever would learn where I live, it would really worry me. He posted on Usenet how he would trace me to my home asking personnel in supermarkets if they have seen me and where I live and that he would "come to my salon with roses" in his hands. I can buy my own roses. I don't want his stench near me. I would call police immediately to arrest him if he would show up at my doorstep.
Now, you can ask me another question.
This bum is utterly disturbed and he harasses and trolls on Usenet and other C of S related forums 24/7. That is his "work" and his social life! I also believe that he is an Alcoholic and probably will die soon on liver cancer. He retaliates because I don't want to become his "helpmate". I don’t want to have anything to do with the perverted and criminal bum. He is a dirty old man and he ran the URL of my blog through a harassing web application called Pornolizer and campaigns and lies on Usenet that HIS PORN VERSION of my blog would be my blog. He calls his stalking and harassment of me and his lies about me his "freedom of speech". He also posts remailers on ARS, talks to them as I would have posted them and he forges me too. He is disturbed prison material... His pornolized version of my blog isn't funny, it is just very primitive like he is...
APP: May I say something?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Not yet. Warren posts anonymous remailers on Usenet, saying how brilliant he (his alias Gregory Hall) is. He thinks people are stupid and won't get that the only person who posts these flattering postings on himself is himself. He hopes that his victims will forget the personal bad experiences that they had with him, the dummy, abuser and that his abuse suddenly doesn't count anymore. I have met stupid men in the past, but I believe he tops them all as far as stupidity is concerned. He wants me to have amnesia as to what he did and still does to me. He also sometimes attacks himself in remailer postings and then replies TO HIS OWN REMAILER POSTING: "I know, Barbarella, you can't stay away from me." This man disgusts me. When I post: Leave me alone, man, he twists everything around and posts something like: "She loves me, she is stalking me!" What a disgusting worthless animal that man is. Smart men are kind to women. He emailed me once what a great independent woman I would be and that he would attract only the dependable type. He doesn't attract any woman! On Usenet he posts that he wants a dependable woman (that serves him) and doesn't get any. I told him to never e-mail me again and to stay way from my blog but he still posts abusive comments with proxies to my blog. He is also a Peeping Tom and spies on undressed women in his area. He has a female sock puppets called "Lady Pilot". He defamed and attacked me with this sock puppet and other vile sock puppets beyond belief and thinks that I would think it is somebody else. His hostile style and so much more gave him away. Sometimes he uses an anonymous remailer and posts something extremely libelous about a woman, then he "comes to the rescue" of the woman that he just maliciously attacked by "correcting" the anonymous remailer posting that he himself just posted. And that should make the woman fall for him. He tried any trick in the book except honesty and decency. He says he is a former Catholic and now a Baptist. Shame on these churches that failed to make that animal into a human being. The incomprehensible thing is that with all that rotten behavior, he doesn't understand that he is the last person I ever want to meet. He spreads deliberate falsehoods in anonymous remailers about me using my real name and then "scolds" his own anonymous posting with his usual sock Gregory Hall, and this is his "alibi" that he was not the person who published the libel under my real name. That man's IQ is lower than that of a cockroach. That should make me fall in love with him, except that I know that he did the remailer posting too! He thinks he can commit crimes against women and they don't get it. He is the dumbest man who was ever born by thinking that women like jerks, obnoxious characters, stalkers and abusers. Women like good and smart men with manners not dumb animals as he is one. This man was alone all his life because he is too retarded to understand that no woman wants to be abused by him and serve a homeless intoxicated bum. He thinks that God is a sexist and made women to be the property of perverted men like himself. His ideas are disgusting. His is Taliban material. This is how he treats women! And any woman is smarter than he is. He interprets the Bible literally but doesn't mind using avatars as AntiChristus in another forum. He is blaming his loneliness and even his ED on the fact that women can't stand him and not on his abusive bum personality and his lack of health. Lately, he runs a campaign that I am a lesbian because I don't want to be with him. I am anything but a lesbian. I am a woman that doesn't need or want bums or stalkers in her life. I am not available and don't want this old stinky criminal Alcoholic bum. He also forges Marty Rathbun under "Martyrathbun10" in a Wordpress blog by mixing two person with that name together. He lies that I am "a bag lady". I have a very nice home with all sanitary equipment. HE IS THE HOMELESS BUM! He tells people that he doesn't has the stomach to read my blog but he is clicking at it sometimes over 100 times a day! He is the most obsessed man ever. He is so obsessed and has such a deep hatred against women that I think he is capable of murdering women. I made the mistake being friendly to him like I am to anybody else before I knew that he is a disturbed stalker. But I sure never made this man (many years older than me) any hopes. I posted with an ID that said that I love Marty, he has no excuse for what he is doing to me. Somebody called him the 4th Stooge. Not me, I call him what really he is: a criminal stalker and disturbed abuser who should be behind bars. He also indicated that he is violent towards women and would beat them to "make them obedient" to him. If this guy ever would learn where I live, it would really worry me. He posted on Usenet how he would trace me to my home asking personnel in supermarkets if they have seen me and where I live and that he would "come to my salon with roses" in his hands. I can buy my own roses. I don't want his stench near me. I would call police immediately to arrest him if he would show up at my doorstep.
Here is photo of the criminal man:
This is how he lies about himself:
Now, you can ask me another question.
APP: Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.? Isn't he an old Usenet ally of attorney Charles Novin?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I can't imagine that Charles Novin approves of Neal Warren's law violations. I strongly assume that attorney Novin doesn't correspond with Neal Warren aka Gregory Hall any longer. Warren isn't an attorney and of course no Sir, he is a criminal primitive stalker bum who lives on a tiny yellow bathtub with name "Cut the Mustard" and want me to "move in", in other words become homeless with him and take care of him, the old criminal pervert. The boat is so small that he can't stand in it. And he wants me to share these inhuman conditions or he wants to move in my big and cozy home. Any woman would be better off alone but with him. He is an old man who a drinks. I think he got his ED from drinking, he needs a nurse not a much younger woman or any woman. For a long time, Warren tried to imply that he is an attorney but he also does his libel and harassment under the title of "spokesperson". There are many postings on Usenet that accuse Neal Warren or Gregory Hall of being Cecil Warren, a convicted child rapist and that he is from Marathon, Florida. These postings are done by Neal Warren himself to 1) keep himself in the headlines because he is a boring nobody craving for attention 2) distract from who he really is and that he lives as homless in Islamorada. Like Korey Kruse's strategy. If somebody reads in a modern posting that he is a convicted Nazi war criminal and finds out that Kruse is just around 40 years old, he might think that his other criminal records (which are his true criminal records) are also fabricated. If the police or somebody else checks Neal Warren's paper, they will find that he is not Cecil Warren and might think that anything else about him is also a lie, which is not. Neal Warren is one of the worst cyberstalkers on the Internet. He is mean, stupid, old, poor, homeless, dirty, criminal, dishonest, rude, sick, perverted, abusive and dangerous, a hypocrite, a hate monger, and he drinks too. Any of my admirers is a better catch in any way than he is. He commits his stalking and defaming and other crimes against me in the name of Jesus. Yes, he is a nut. I told him over and over that I am not interested in him and that he should leave me alone but he keeps on stalking and defaming me. He thinks that I should be "flattered" by his attention. No woman is flattered by a jerk, drunk, abuser, and stalker. They pray everyday that the stalker goes away. I hope he is eaten by a shark, I don't need and want his sick attention. He makes me throw up.
APP: He posts on a.r.s?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Warren trolls just about any Usenet group with male and female socks and just about any Internet forum somehow related to Scientology in hope that I see it and that he gets an reaction out of me, if not positive then negative. The police characteristics of a stalker fits on that man a 100%. Most people have killfiled him. He defames my state of mind, lies that I am suffering of a mental illness of which he learned from Wikipedia...
APP: Professional folks don't take Wikipedia seriously...
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Warren is anything but professional. He posted before that he compared the photos of L. Ron Hubbard and Marty Rathbun and came also to the conclusion that they had doppelgangers. But after I don't post on ARS anymore to get rid of him, he smears under stolen identity of Marty Rathbun that believing that people can have doppelgangers is a mental illness because Wikipedia says so. Warren agreed earlier that he too believes that they had/have doppelgangers/impostors and that means that Warren himself is having that "mental illness". He also posts lunatic and harassing comments with proxies to my blog and harasses me under the name of Eisenhower, Tom Cruise, and other fake IDs. He forgets that the ISP from the Marina and libraries in Islamorada can acknowledge that these criminal acts were committed by him. He tries to copy Garry Scarff's abusive posting style to blame Scarff because Neal Warren is such a coward. But Scarff never was in Islamorada. I think that Neal Warren will spend the rest of his life in prison with a male warden as his "helpmate".
I know right away when it is Warren and when it is Scarff or somebody else. I prohibited Warren to e-mail me or post to my blog but he still does it as he is an insane stalker. I think he was a little soldier once but so was Timothy McVeigh. Then he left or was not honorably discharged and never had any kind of career probably never held a steady job and became homeless three decades ago and still is. His inability to make a living, he blames on women. If a man wants a woman he at least has to keep up with the women's ability to make a living. He wants women but hates them because they are all more successful that he is. He can't live off a woman and at the same time make her to be his slave. He is nuts. Of course he is alone as no woman is that dumb to hook up with him. I think the only women that he gets are paid cheap prostitutes. He posted that Islamic women would "know their place". He is such an idiot because suppressed women hate suppressive husbands and systems. Moreover, Warren wouldn't get a woman in Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia either because the families of these women want lots of cash or material goods from the guy who gets the woman, and he has nothing but an old bathtub called "Cut the Mustard". Islamic families wouldn't give their women to that loser either. He can't even pay the docking fees at the Marina and has to dock in the ocean where he lives in fear at night being run over by another boat. His inability to rent a place, he calls "modesty". This man is nothing but a loser stalker. He wants to own a woman, physically and spiritually. He has such a revolting personality that no woman can love him. What did he do? He searched the Bible for sexist crap that dirty old men like himself added in course of the centuries to Bible editions and demands from women to live by it as it would be the word of God. Well, it is not the Word of God. Actually, I was shocked as to how sexist the Bible is. If someone has a line to God and feels how he really is, she or her knows that this perverted trash is never by God. Warren posted that the only purpose of a woman is serving the man and bearing children so that the male gender doesn't die.
APP: Professional folks don't take Wikipedia seriously...
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Warren is anything but professional. He posted before that he compared the photos of L. Ron Hubbard and Marty Rathbun and came also to the conclusion that they had doppelgangers. But after I don't post on ARS anymore to get rid of him, he smears under stolen identity of Marty Rathbun that believing that people can have doppelgangers is a mental illness because Wikipedia says so. Warren agreed earlier that he too believes that they had/have doppelgangers/impostors and that means that Warren himself is having that "mental illness". He also posts lunatic and harassing comments with proxies to my blog and harasses me under the name of Eisenhower, Tom Cruise, and other fake IDs. He forgets that the ISP from the Marina and libraries in Islamorada can acknowledge that these criminal acts were committed by him. He tries to copy Garry Scarff's abusive posting style to blame Scarff because Neal Warren is such a coward. But Scarff never was in Islamorada. I think that Neal Warren will spend the rest of his life in prison with a male warden as his "helpmate".
I know right away when it is Warren and when it is Scarff or somebody else. I prohibited Warren to e-mail me or post to my blog but he still does it as he is an insane stalker. I think he was a little soldier once but so was Timothy McVeigh. Then he left or was not honorably discharged and never had any kind of career probably never held a steady job and became homeless three decades ago and still is. His inability to make a living, he blames on women. If a man wants a woman he at least has to keep up with the women's ability to make a living. He wants women but hates them because they are all more successful that he is. He can't live off a woman and at the same time make her to be his slave. He is nuts. Of course he is alone as no woman is that dumb to hook up with him. I think the only women that he gets are paid cheap prostitutes. He posted that Islamic women would "know their place". He is such an idiot because suppressed women hate suppressive husbands and systems. Moreover, Warren wouldn't get a woman in Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia either because the families of these women want lots of cash or material goods from the guy who gets the woman, and he has nothing but an old bathtub called "Cut the Mustard". Islamic families wouldn't give their women to that loser either. He can't even pay the docking fees at the Marina and has to dock in the ocean where he lives in fear at night being run over by another boat. His inability to rent a place, he calls "modesty". This man is nothing but a loser stalker. He wants to own a woman, physically and spiritually. He has such a revolting personality that no woman can love him. What did he do? He searched the Bible for sexist crap that dirty old men like himself added in course of the centuries to Bible editions and demands from women to live by it as it would be the word of God. Well, it is not the Word of God. Actually, I was shocked as to how sexist the Bible is. If someone has a line to God and feels how he really is, she or her knows that this perverted trash is never by God. Warren posted that the only purpose of a woman is serving the man and bearing children so that the male gender doesn't die.
APP: (laughs) I don't know any woman who would put up with this.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Neither do I. He is so stupid that he don't get that his loneliness has to do with his with own suppressive bum character. He wants to own a woman but doesn't even want to provide a roof over her head or sanitary conditions. He hasn't worked since 30 years while the women he wants to OWN worked and made livings for themselves. Why would any woman give that up and serve an dirty old drinking sexist and criminal stalker? There are approx. 3 Billion men on this planet. Why women not chose a much better man?
APP: Like me?
Barbara Schwarz: (laughs) In his next life time, he probably will be a woman and then he will bitterly complain about sexists as he was himself in his former male lifetime. What goes around, comes around. He is old and drinks. He might die of liver cancer or any other alcohol related disease any minute. Warren had no sisters, and I don't know what's was wrong with his mother that he never learned to respect women. He is clueless about women and thinks that harassing, defaming and stalking would bring him love and respect by women. A gorilla is smarter than this man. Warren is insecure and a lazy coward. If he wants to impress women, he should show them more than a dirty little bathtub without sanitary equipment and should treat them with respect. He thinks that it is the women's fault that they don't accept his homeless bum conditions, and he blames them accordingly on what's wrong with himself. He is too dishonest to admit that he is a disturbed bum who wasted his life away being homeless and that no woman wants to share this pathetic life. Neal Warren lies that he is a lotto millionaire and also forges me and others but Warren gets always busted.
APP: How does he make a living?
Barbara Schwarz: He does not. He can't afford to rent a room. Many decades ago, he was a very small soldier and probably gets 200 bucks per month from the Army. He once posted that people should be glad that they get older because a cup of coffee costs for senior citizens just 50 cents. I think he lost every job that he ever had because he is a stalker and drinks. Who wants to employ such a man? Nobody, and I can't blame them. So, he lives of the government like an animal, and all the free time that he has he uses to stalk and harass women because nobody wants to live with him or interact with him.
APP: How does he make a living?
Barbara Schwarz: He does not. He can't afford to rent a room. Many decades ago, he was a very small soldier and probably gets 200 bucks per month from the Army. He once posted that people should be glad that they get older because a cup of coffee costs for senior citizens just 50 cents. I think he lost every job that he ever had because he is a stalker and drinks. Who wants to employ such a man? Nobody, and I can't blame them. So, he lives of the government like an animal, and all the free time that he has he uses to stalk and harass women because nobody wants to live with him or interact with him.
APP: At least Garry Scarff, Korey Kruse, and some others leave you alone now.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: No, not really. Kruse defames me on Wikipedia as Anynobody. There is nobody on ARS or Scientology related forums who doesn't know that Garry Scarff hides behind the harmless Avatar Smurf and that he is a notorious liar. He lied these days: "I get nailed by Babbles [derogatory name for me] for being the Commander of SEGNPMSS, I live in a phony apartment on Hollywood Blvd that has a secret underground subway in its basement that speeds me to the Nazi units under my command, and I control people by inserting remote-controlled ants & gnats in the ears of my unsuspecting victims."
APP: (laughs) What does that mean?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: It means that Scarff is a liar and a nut. I never said or wrote anything like that. Scarff is a guy who lives in a tiny room in a transient house in a non-glamorous part of Hollywood without cooking possibilities for decades, and his neighbors say that his landlord can't kick him out as he has papers that prove that he is mentally ill. He is a disturbed nobody and defames me on having his mental problems. Neither Michelle Sterling aka Emma nor Tiny Dancer or any other WWP moderator ever ask their posters: "Where is the proof that she did that?" Scarff simply lies and hopes that stupid people believe him and don't ask him for evidence. Once he is asked to provide the proof, he either provides a forgery that he did himself using my name illegally or he runs. And these are the guys who want Scientologists and all of the world to follow their lead and advice. It is so ridiculous. They are nothing but a bunch of losers. Hate forums like ESMB, OCMB, WWP but also Wikipedia are ideal for these stalkers and defamers to hide their real identity to find other hate mongers and liars trying to destroy their target's reputation and life. What they want is to isolate their victims. Anybody should believe their lies and forgeries and the targeted persons should be shunned by their own family members, friends, colleagues, should not get a job, should not find housing and should kill themselves. (If they do, they would blame Scientology on it instead their very own hate campaigns.) That is the real purposes of posting against individuals on these boards. These hate mongers who should be ashamed of their past and present want to shame those who have no reason to be ashamed about anything.
APP: Do you post on these forums?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I am not interested in posting on forums that are moderated by people who are hate mongers and above the laws. I posted on Usenet and now on my blog. I never would have posted on Usenet either if hate mongers would not have defamed and libeled me before I ever posted anywhere. Hate message boards as that of Australian Michelle Sterling (formerly Ryan) aka "Emma", WWP, or that of Andreas Heldal-Lund violate international laws by libeling and defaming me or others and also violating my or others copyrights.
APP: If you would post there would they ban you?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Of course. They would ban me the moment I'd register and before I ever could post one posting. They never would allow my right of correcting the lies on me on their message boards. Hate message boards as that of Australian Michelle Sterling "ESMB", formerly Ryan, aka "Emma", WWP, moderated by some anonymous guys, one calls himself "Tiny Dancer" or "Curly Sue", etc. or OCMB, the hate message board of Andreas Heldal-Lund or Wikipedia violate international laws by allowing libel, defamation, forgeries, and some are also violating copyrights. Take Roadrunner, for example. He is a poster who doesn't hate Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard. Despite good posting manners, he was banned on just about all these forums because he doesn't hate. This is the only reason they banned him. He doesn’t hate Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard and that is why they don't allow him freedom of speech.
APP: YouTube has clean hands on you?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: No. YouTube also provides a platform for lies, libel, immature and retarded defamation and harassment to the worst libeler and any criminal person like convicted felon Brian "Brielle" Bruns and his lawless AHBL. What's wrong with themselves, they blame on me.
APP: Did they succeed with destroying your family and you social connections?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Smart people look through those hate posters, only dumb people fall for them, and I don't want any dumb social connections. Nobody smart believes them over me. But stupid people do and they can make your life miserable. These defamers and libelers didn't meet me in real life. My defamers are all people who are fools who either make stuff up about me or base their opinion on the lies of other people, which is evidence of their pitiful IQs. They accuse me on are their very own faults. The "Barbara Schwarz" that they describe does not exist. Their "ideas" about me are in their heads only that is full with either booze or street drugs or psychiatric drugs.
APP: What are you going to do?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I am not Anonymous but I don't forget and forgive either. Once I get the money to hire the sharpest attorneys I will sue the hell out of them in court of laws. I will do it and will hold them accountable for each and any lie, defamation, libel, harassment that they published about me and for each copyright violation. I will sue them for each cent that they got and beyond.
APP: You wanna sue each one of them? That will cost you…
BARBARA SCHWARZ: (interrupts) They deserve it, they ask for it… I don't care what it will cost, I'll win the money back anyway.
APP: Some people might say that you lost FOIA cases against the government….
BARBARA SCHWARZ: (interrupts) It's hard to win administrative cases against the government for anybody but these stalkers and libelers are all private and mostly unsuccessful people. It is not difficult to win against them, besides, they are guilty like hell…
APP: You want to sue people whose identities you don't know? You know some names like Neal Warren, Brian Bruns, Korey Kruse, Michelle Sterling, Tilman Hausherr, David Rice, Frederic Rice, Claire Swazey, and Garry Scarff but what about the others?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: PIs can find out all about their real identities or/and Michelle Sterling, the former Michelle Ryan, Andreas Heldal Lund, Curly Sue, Tiny Dancer, Wikipedia, etc. will be forced under the law to provide the real identities of my other defamers, libelers, stalkers and/or their Internet connections. Moderators who allow anonymous libel, defamation, forgeries, copyright violations are the dumbest people on Earth because they are ultimately responsible for the libel, harassment, and abuse posted on their forums. They think that putting up "posting rules" that they don't enforce will protect them from legal consequences. They are so wrong. Michelle Sterling, the WWP moderators, Andreas Heldal Lund, etc. are personally responsible for any libelous word and any other law violation that they ever allowed to be posted on their hate message boards because they approved it. Personal attacks are what these hate message boards are based upon.
APP: You really want to see them in court?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I don’t want to see them in court. I want them to see my sharp no-nonsense lawyers in court. I don't have the time to go into all of that right now but just have a brief look at the lies, the defamation, and the harassment of for example the Ex-Scientologists Message Board, the hate message board of Michelle Ryan. She owns this hate message board, she asks for donations, contributes to the hatred, and approves of the hatred, the lies, the defamation, the harassment, the cyber stalking, the copyright violation of her posters. I never met Michelle Ryan, the later Michelle Sterling from Australia nor posted anything about her before her message board targeted me while she cowardly hid behind a false name: Emma and other identities. So, what is my crime? I don't hate L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. That is all. Well, I downloaded her photos from the web in case they are needed for law enforcement purpose identifications.
APP: Why don't you get such a forum yourself?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I don't want to make money with defamation, libel, copyright violations. I don't want to be held responsible for anybody's libel and defamation. Right now, they think it is such fun to libel, defame, attack, and harass people who never did anything to them by not giving the harmed persons access to correct the libel, etc. But they will not more laughing when a serious law suit hits them. They and Sterling better save any cent that they got because I will take it all away with the sharpest Aussie lawyers ever. I think Michelle thinks that when my name is slightly altered, I won't find the thread and will not note the libel and the defamation. Or she thinks that the libel and harassment is no libel and harassment when my name is slightly altered. However, the fool forgets that some other hate mongers throw the correct spelling of my name in the same thread and that makes it libel and defamation on me and is actionable. It also looks like Australia has stricter libel laws than the USA and law suits brought against Michelle Sterling could result in her having to pay damages to her victims until the end of the life because she approves those libelous postings because she is the owner and moderator and makes money with her lawless business. Read this court ruling: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2002/56.html
She doesn't do her daughter any favors by trying to make money through a defamation and libel board. The poor kid might one day inherit nothing but legal debts from her mother.
APP: Wanna hear my opinion?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Sure.
APP: I don't doubt your claims against Sterling, Warren, Scarff, Heldal-Lund, WWP, etc. but attorneys are very expensive. Where do you get that kind of dough?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Let this be my worries. I'll get the money legally, and it will not be dirty like the "donations" or the advertisement payments that these forum owners are getting by harassing, defaming, libeling and cyber stalking others. ESMB (Michelle Sterling formerly Ryan) claims that her forum consists of "former Scientologists" while their top poster, Joe Lynn (who is on the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org) never was in Scientology. That means: false advertisement. I have seen also numerous other postings of people on that board who admitted they never were in Scientology.
APP: But some of them were in Scientology.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Hanging around in some Scientology orgs doesn't make a person into a Scientologist. Sterling's biggest lie is that the site would be not anti-Scientology. How dumb does she think people are to buy that one? She bans people who are not anti-Scientology. She wants Scientologists and others to read all the dirt, the misinformation, and the lies on her forum but she bans those who want to post non-hatred as the Roadrunner for example. And I am sure that there were plenty more.
APP: You don't know any of the people who posts lies about you on ESMB?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Not personally.
APP: Do you know Zinjifar?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Never met the guy. I think that Joe Lynn aka Zinjifar is some kind of German oriented agent like Krautfag, Sauerlaenderin, Tilman Joerg Hausherr or Korey Jerome Kruse who blame anybody but the real who behind the interruptions of my life: German psychiatry and the German government. Joe Lynn seems hanging out on that hate message board days and nights and has posted there almost 15000 hate messages, and he thinks that is normal behavior and that he is sane. It is a typical German secret service strategy to compare somebody to most twisted people on the planet to ruin her reputation. You probably heard of Koos, a former Dutch guy whose two daughters died under mysterious circumstances, and numerous people posted that he was involved in that.
APP: Koos Nolst Trenite?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, that's the one. Lynn ran an Usenet/Internet campaign for years against me and threw in Koos' name in each posting about me to defame me despite I had nothing to do with Koos and his dead daughters or anything else that Koos stood for or stands for. He posts confused defamatory crap and lies, I don't. People could not be more different than Koos and I. I could retaliate against Joe Lynn by throwing his name and the name of a very infamous and disturbed person always together in all my posting to position him with a name that is under the shadow of two deaths - but didn't do it because I am not scum like Lynn and truth means everything to me. I have nothing in common with Koos or Lynn. - You really have to get the magnitude of this: Koos is a guy who posts lots of confused stuff and might be involved in the death of two of his daughters, and libeler Joe Lynn has the guts to run a campaign comparing me with this man. This is beyond insulting! This is beyond anything that is permitted under the law! Lynn owes me apologies but I won't accept them because he doesn't deserve my apologies. Lynn defamed me as "totally demented" on ARS before I ever had posted anything and without knowing me. He sort of admitted later on Usenet that I am not demented but what is wrong with those people posting such stuff about people that they don't know just because somebody tells them to hate Scientologists?
APP: Joe Lynn keeps Sterling's forum afloat?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: That's probably what he is trying to do. But I don't think that he has time to run multiple posting accounts. With his many hate postings, I believe he hasn't had time to walk outside the door. He probably doesn't know what seasons it is. Hasn't seen grass or snow in years. (Laughs). But I believe that others run multiple accounts on ESMB.
APP: Does she pay him?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I don't know but he is probably stupid enough to work for free like a typical ESMB cultist or robot. Joe Lynn and some other liars posted that OSA pays me or runs me. It's complete crap. These guys can't stand that a private person doesn't want to join their anti-Scientology hate club so they make up that the person who doesn't adopt their ways has no self-determination but is from OSA. Once you reject them, they accuse you of being "OSA", an entity that deals with the external affairs of the C of S. They are living in their little hate world and don't get that as a critic of David Miscavige, he will certainly not having his OSA paying me. I make my living completely independent from any C of S entity.
APP: Didn't Koos attack you too?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, Koos defamed me maliciously on Usenet. He fits right in with my other defamers. Another fanatical ESMB posters is Claire Swazey who calls herself the Fool on the Hill. She used the posting name Fluffygirl or Ball of Fluff before and later the avatar "Voltaire's child", I guess because Ron's child was taken in a way, and she wastes her life away by posting on just about any message board hate messages, almost 13000 postings on ESMB as of today and so many more on other hate board, including WWP. It is impossible that this woman has a life except posting hatred. She claimed years ago that she would be a Scientologist but I noticed right away that she was none. She admitted later than she is none. Isene Geir, some European alleged "Independent" made her the moderator of yet another message board, and Claire tries to recruit hate mongers from other message boards to post on Isene Geir's. Looks like a tough competition between those hate boards. (Laughs) Claire is known to lie about me and insult my intelligence. She said that OSA would use me by mailing me e-mails and I that would not get that these e-mails are from OSA. (Laughs) There is nothing that I don't get. I know exactly what I did and why I did it and who I corresponded with.
APP: She sure is a busybody. Found lots of Fluffy and Voltaire's child postings on Usenet and all these forums on Scientology…
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I was very new on ARS, just telling my story and experiences when Claire aka Fluffy out of the blue attacked me and defamed me. I really had not posted one word about her. I didn't knew who she was. She followed me around and posted defamation about me behind any postings of mine that she saw. However, around one x-mas, we called it a truce. But then, I saw that she defamed me in another forum again. Truce was off because she broke it and she admitted it later in a posting that she broke it. I also found it despicable and completely lawless that she fabricated later a "porn Sea Org order" and forged Ron's name under it and accused Ron and Diana of incest. She called the tasteless and hurtful forgery on ARS (a group that thrives on lies and accepts lies as truth) "a satire". Guess that says all about Claire who claims also that I am delusional because I claim that Ron and Marty have/had doppelgangers. By claiming so, Claire just acknowledges that she is not the brightest crayon in the box. Guess all FBI agents and CIA agents who found evidence that Saddam Hussein and others had doppelgangers are all mentally ill in the Claire Swazey but also Neal Warren universe.
BABARA SCHWARZ: Claire and Neal Warren don't like each other but they post the same stupid lies. Foolish Claire says that doppelgangers are delusional, psychiatric troll Neal Warren says that the doppelgangers are not real but the "Capgras Sydrome". CIA and FBI investigators who found evidence of doppelgangers are all mentally ill according to "mental giants" Claire Swazey and Neal Warren. Hey, and the American public who saw George Bush and Steve Bridges are all mentally ill because they just imagine that there is one who looks and talks like George Bush. (laughs)
APP: Steve Bridges is hilarious and the resemblance with George Bush is uncanny.
Barbara Schwarz: Who is the real Saddam? Look at these pictures: (Photo)
APP: You won't get political on me, won't you?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Not today. I had a good laugh when Bridges (impersonating President Bush) said: "You American don't have to worry about the economy. This is my job. And I don't worry about it." But other Brigdes' stuff is also funny.
APP: Claire Swazey accused L. Ron Hubbard and Diana Hubbard of incest?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes. I saved that "porn order" that Claire issued in his name. She says somebody else wrote it and she just would have added to it. She added the incest part for sure. Claire gives a damn on who she hurts and defames. She thinks it is funny to start such disgusting rumors.
APP: What did Diana say?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I don't know if she saw it but if she finds it on the net, I assume she will be anything but happy about it. – Another of the Michelle Ryan Sterling hate message board supporter is Paul Adams from the UK with the horrible posting ID "Dulloldfart" who defames me on ESMB. If I would own a message board, I wouldn't want anyone with this cheap posting ID post on my forum. I don’t know this guy either. I never corresponded with him, I also don't remember having met him on ARS. He might have been one of the many who used an anonymous identity to defame me but I sure never posted anything ever about him. Today is the first time that I mention this guy. He calls himself also the Yawn guy. Perhaps that is why he is so forgettable?
APP: Did you ever try stand up comedy?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Unfortunately, nothing funny about real life hate mongers! Paul Adams came up with some kind of rubbing and yawn therapy but perhaps he should come up with an anti-defamer and truth therapy first and apply it himself, and so should Michelle Ryan Sterling, and the others like her. Perhaps he hates Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard because considers them a competition to his yawn and rub therapy? He might be indeed what he claims he is: a squirrel, one who uses an altered form of Scientology in his yawn and rub therapy.
APP: I just checked ESMB. He is the second active poster on this message board. Close to 14000 postings…
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I think this board is a stupid competition as to who posts the most. Quality and truth content of postings doesn't matter. Another poster on the hate message board ESMB is Paul Horner aka Fred Durks aka Darude al Ungar (using all kinds of fake posting names). He used to rip off websites of others and Amazon and Microsoft filed complaints against him. Here are some links.
He ripped off the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org too and webbed the www.religiousfreedomwatch.info with very altered context, making the extremists look very good and registered this rip off website in my and Marty Rathbun's name. Exactly: criminal. It was on the net for a long time and then he finally took it down or he sold it to somebody who decided to take it down. There are some who think that Mosey's husband never commented on me. But they are wrong. He e-mailed Paul Horner on me and Paul published his message.
APP: How did that make you feel?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Unchanged because he isn't my Marty but another Mark.
APP: Microsoft or Amazon won against Horner but did he get jail time?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I don't know. He should have been arrested because he continued the abusive registration pattern with me, Mark or Marty Rathbun, and the RFW an who knows what he is up to now. – I don't think that the ESMB has many posters but anybody can read their defamation and libel on the net. The world has more than 6 Billion people and she has around 50 members, and several of these might have multiple accounts and are identical with the poster who post hatred on OCBM and WWP. Probably any Scientology group has more members than she has. Better people are appalled by the hatred that these groups emanate. I think that Sterling doesn’t understand that a hate message board does not attract the people who she wants to attract: anyone. She just attracts primitive, stupid and lawless people. There is also ESMB poster Tigger, Shirley Jean Wilson from Oklahoma who likes to defame me and called upon a campaign to ban me from posting to non-moderated ARS because I posted that I fear that hostility against Scientology could result into a terror attack against Scientologists, and I think that this danger still exist. Shirley Jean Wilson never was in Scientology, so she posting on an alleged ex-Scientologist board is also false advertisement for ESMB.
APP: Do you know somebody named "Ladayla" or "Challenge"?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: If you want to call a female stalker in her late 70s who came uninvited with her husband to my apartment and after they didn't meet me there, stalked me to the library in Salt Lake City "knowing"? Ladayla's real name is Jana Moreillon and her own daughter doesn't want to have anything to do with her, and I understand why after she stalked to my apartment door and my library. She brags having met me. But I rarely said anything to her because first I had no clue who she was. Most of the 3 minutes she was there, I tried to figure out who she was and what the hell she wanted. She posted lies about me on Usenet that I am Marty Rathbun.
APP: She said that YOU are Marty Rathbun?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, she spread a rumor on ARS that I am Marty Rathbun. Suddenly she shows up without an invitation and was surprised that I didn't remember her. She could have mailed an e-mail to my posting e-mail address if I want to see her but I guess she knew that I would not meet strangers and liars from Usenet and that is why she ambushed me uninvited. I had no clue who she was, what she wanted and why she disturbed other library users in the computer lab of the library talking loud to me. She had no respect of my privacy and stuck her nose right in middle of my computer screen and asked me what I would work on. I saw that woman for 3 minutes maximum and most of these minutes, I tried to figure out who she could be and what she wanted from me and later she bragged on Usenet and in Internet forums that she knows me and lied about my appearance. She doesn't know me at all. I remembered that I was originally kind to her on Usenet but she later defamed me and lied about me maliciously because I wasn't impressed by her. Around one x-mas, Jana got a bad conscience about her lies on me and wrote me a x-mas card. I didn't reply because she lied about me so maliciously, and a x-mas card doesn't remove the pain and defamation that she caused. She is back in her malicious pattern to lie about me. I knew that this x-mas card meant nothing to her. Right after x-mas, she turns into the hate monger that she is all year round. She per se libeled me as mentally ill (per se and actionable) but what do you make of a person who posted that I am Marty and who disturbs others in the library and who doesn't respect somebody's privacy and comes uninvited and wants me to remember a complete stranger and who retaliates with lies because I didn't made that stranger with no manner to be my friend? If somebody is pathetic, it is Jana. I don't think that her husband is that off the rocker but she is.
APP: Who is poster NeverMe?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: A person who Michelle Sterling allows to make his/her libel anonymous. She really is clueless. What I find despicable about NeverMe and posters like that is the alleged sympathy that they fake. There are a couple of defamers on the net who push lies that they are on my side but in same breath they defame me. NeverMe "wishing me luck in life" but at the same time compares me to his paranoid schizo family member. If somebody attacks another person maliciously, most people are getting very quickly that the attacker has a vendetta. But when a slimy snail like NeverMe lies that I'm mentally ill or something like that by falsely claiming sympathy, some not so bright people fall for that. Can you follow me?
APP: I hope so...
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Okay, for example, I am anything but mentally ill but my defamers want to convince the world that I am. They launch a campaign against me, trying to sell their libel. They lie that they have good intentions towards me. Like this: "Do not taunt Barbara Schwarz again. She suffers already enough under her mental condition." Or: "I wish Barbara Schwarz the best and hope that she finally gets her mental health therapy."
That is what I mean. They lie that they mean well while in fact they are nothing but malicious defamers. They know exactly that I am not mentally ill, and they have the mental defects the accuse me on. Everything is wrong with people who use such methods to get rid of somebody who has the better arguments.
APP: I get it.... These people come out of the woods and attack you?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Some years back, newsgroup ARS was the meeting place of all Scientology haters. They were 200 - 300 different posters, and they were pretty much all against my religion. I had the "guts" to show up and often I was the only Scientologist who posted there. I got all their hatred in my face. I was friendly to everyone unless they libeled, defamed or harassed me in another way, then I told them what I thought of them. They didn't succeed scaring me away, so most of the fabricated lies about my state of mind were done to discredit me. There were also some posters who didn't harass me like Andrew Robertson from New Zealand, Peach, Mary, Monica or some others. We were and still are fundamentally opposed about Scientology and with some of them, I had discussions but these discussions always were civilized how discussions should be between adults. But I sure had and still have zero tolerance of those who defame my state of mind because they think otherwise they don't win the argument.
APP: Do you know somebody named "Ladayla" or "Challenge"?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: If you want to call a female stalker in her late 70s who came uninvited with her husband to my apartment and after they didn't meet me there, stalked me to the library in Salt Lake City "knowing"? Ladayla's real name is Jana Moreillon and her own daughter doesn't want to have anything to do with her, and I understand why after she stalked to my apartment door and my library. She brags having met me. But I rarely said anything to her because first I had no clue who she was. Most of the 3 minutes she was there, I tried to figure out who she was and what the hell she wanted. She posted lies about me on Usenet that I am Marty Rathbun.
APP: She said that YOU are Marty Rathbun?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, she spread a rumor on ARS that I am Marty Rathbun. Suddenly she shows up without an invitation and was surprised that I didn't remember her. She could have mailed an e-mail to my posting e-mail address if I want to see her but I guess she knew that I would not meet strangers and liars from Usenet and that is why she ambushed me uninvited. I had no clue who she was, what she wanted and why she disturbed other library users in the computer lab of the library talking loud to me. She had no respect of my privacy and stuck her nose right in middle of my computer screen and asked me what I would work on. I saw that woman for 3 minutes maximum and most of these minutes, I tried to figure out who she could be and what she wanted from me and later she bragged on Usenet and in Internet forums that she knows me and lied about my appearance. She doesn't know me at all. I remembered that I was originally kind to her on Usenet but she later defamed me and lied about me maliciously because I wasn't impressed by her. Around one x-mas, Jana got a bad conscience about her lies on me and wrote me a x-mas card. I didn't reply because she lied about me so maliciously, and a x-mas card doesn't remove the pain and defamation that she caused. She is back in her malicious pattern to lie about me. I knew that this x-mas card meant nothing to her. Right after x-mas, she turns into the hate monger that she is all year round. She per se libeled me as mentally ill (per se and actionable) but what do you make of a person who posted that I am Marty and who disturbs others in the library and who doesn't respect somebody's privacy and comes uninvited and wants me to remember a complete stranger and who retaliates with lies because I didn't made that stranger with no manner to be my friend? If somebody is pathetic, it is Jana. I don't think that her husband is that off the rocker but she is.
APP: Who is poster NeverMe?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: A person who Michelle Sterling allows to make his/her libel anonymous. She really is clueless. What I find despicable about NeverMe and posters like that is the alleged sympathy that they fake. There are a couple of defamers on the net who push lies that they are on my side but in same breath they defame me. NeverMe "wishing me luck in life" but at the same time compares me to his paranoid schizo family member. If somebody attacks another person maliciously, most people are getting very quickly that the attacker has a vendetta. But when a slimy snail like NeverMe lies that I'm mentally ill or something like that by falsely claiming sympathy, some not so bright people fall for that. Can you follow me?
APP: I hope so...
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Okay, for example, I am anything but mentally ill but my defamers want to convince the world that I am. They launch a campaign against me, trying to sell their libel. They lie that they have good intentions towards me. Like this: "Do not taunt Barbara Schwarz again. She suffers already enough under her mental condition." Or: "I wish Barbara Schwarz the best and hope that she finally gets her mental health therapy."
That is what I mean. They lie that they mean well while in fact they are nothing but malicious defamers. They know exactly that I am not mentally ill, and they have the mental defects the accuse me on. Everything is wrong with people who use such methods to get rid of somebody who has the better arguments.
APP: I get it.... These people come out of the woods and attack you?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Some years back, newsgroup ARS was the meeting place of all Scientology haters. They were 200 - 300 different posters, and they were pretty much all against my religion. I had the "guts" to show up and often I was the only Scientologist who posted there. I got all their hatred in my face. I was friendly to everyone unless they libeled, defamed or harassed me in another way, then I told them what I thought of them. They didn't succeed scaring me away, so most of the fabricated lies about my state of mind were done to discredit me. There were also some posters who didn't harass me like Andrew Robertson from New Zealand, Peach, Mary, Monica or some others. We were and still are fundamentally opposed about Scientology and with some of them, I had discussions but these discussions always were civilized how discussions should be between adults. But I sure had and still have zero tolerance of those who defame my state of mind because they think otherwise they don't win the argument.
APP: Not everyone on ESMB is nasty. Larry Brennan posted kindly in response to your criticism of him.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I decorated the posting that I made on him with real entertaining gifs, that must count for something. (Laughs) Actually, Larry Brennan did meet me in real life in the early/mid 80 in LA when he was the head of the SU but we had no conversation back then. If I recall it correctly, it was Larry who (on a visit in Copenhagen) assigned me an RTC mission. Back then, I never would have dreamed that he would resign from his religion. We exchanged some postings later on Usenet and these encounters were peaceful and friendly. It is true that he never targeted me with defamation but I think that he understands what I find so shocking about his later activities. Being in disagreement over the actions of somebody who takes a leadership role in the C of S is one thing, but lecturing against the religion Scientology and Ron in p$ych institutions and Germany after he allegedly promoted Scientology and Ron for decades, that is another thing. What I find so incomprehensible about Larry is that after all these years that he spent in Scientology that he threw the religion away and works with psychiatrists and the Germans together whose infiltration of Scientology is the cause of all the trouble. How can one fight for decades for a religion and its mission and suddenly it mean nothing to him? If the religion Scientology would be a fraud (it is not but just for the sake of augment) why didn't Larry find this out very quickly? I have nothing against Larry personally, actually I did like him, but his later activities make no sense to me. Unless, he was never a Scientologist to begin with.
APP: Some guys are joking that they can't be German operatives because they speak no German…
BARBARA SCHWARZ: (interrupts) German secret service executives are stupid but not that dumb that they didn't come up with an international translator program that works a bit better than the Babblefish translator. The worst defamers and libelers on the ESMB are Klidov (who posts like habitual offender Jerome Kruse) the friend of German agent Tilman Joerg Hausherr, Krautfag (another German) agent and some international German robots as: Skollie, ChuckNorrisCutmyLawn, Alanzo…. I don't know these guys, I never posted anything about them, and they just prove that they have a large amount of lose screws by harassing and defaming me. Parrotnutz is another troll on ESMB who admitted having never been in Scientology. These guys are too much. It's like non-astronauts wanting to tell astronauts how it is in space and want to be taken seriously. Parronutz claims that my story made him aware of abuses in Scientology and that is why he got interested in the subject. This troll is apparently an illiterate because I posted over and over that there is nothing abusive in Scientology, except the infiltration by non-Scientologists. Then there is Xenu"Prince". I call my Marty "Prince" and he stole that for his low purposes. This guy is a complete idiot suggesting that OSA runs me. Apparently, these guys are being run by somebody. They can't imagine that there is somebody who has no case officer. I wrote that DM "inherited" Scientology from the impostor not from L. Ron Hubbard. DM is the boss of OSA. If OSA or anybody else would run me, doppelganger facts would not be published.
APP: Is Sauerlaenderin a German word?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, it means that it is a female from the South-East of North Rhine Westphalia.
APP: She claims that you are a victim of Scientology and your mother and she posted some references.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: References? I posted references on my blog how the German state denied my rights, arresting me under false pretences and denying an attorney to me and kidnapping me to Germany. If she wants to call me a victim, she should at least say who really caused it: the German government and its psychs and the infiltrators. Google the name Juergen Keltsch and my name. Some posters post as if I would be dead. I remember when hate mongers smeared Wikipiggy articles on me…
APP: Wikipiggy means Wikipedia?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yep. Wikipiggy scribbers banned me and then they were talking and guessing about me as if I would have died in the 17th century. Why did she do that? Why did she go there? Where was she born? When was she born? Where did she go to school? And so on. It was completely nuts. There I am, alive and available for information, and I know my life better than anyone but they don't ask me. They rather guess and get it wrong. They rather fabricate and make things up. Sauerlaenderin is such an example too. Instead of asking me, she posted that German reporter Wüllenweber asked where my unemployed sick mother got the 10.000 DM to pay the kidnappers.
I know where RB got the cash for the kidnapping but the ESMB posters are too twisted than to ask the source as a sane person would do. RB got the 10.000 DM from the German government. They gave her a sweetheart credit to hire kidnappers. And yes, there is written evidence on that. Nobody would have given her a credit but the German government because they wanted me "deprogrammed" despite I never was "programmed".
It also proves that Sauerlaenderin is wrong by not posting that her beloved Germany did destroy my life. Because, Germany is completely guilty of just that. I am not saying that my so-called mother was innocent. She was freaking suppressive but she would have done nothing of what she did if not the German government, its psychiatrists, its cult "experts", its infiltration in Scientology, and the German media wouldn't have prepared the ground for it and wouldn't have manipulated her into that.
APP: Cyril Vosper was your kidnapper?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Yes, but he wasn't the only one. Interesting is that those people who blame Scientology on what happened to me still promote Cyril Vosper and his stupid lying book. They are lawless hypocrites. Cyril Vosper was the lead kidnapper as determined by a court but Scientology "critics", and posters on these message boards still don't mind promoting his sick ideas and his book. Garry Scarff aka Smurff tries to spread a nasty German agent Tilman Hausherr rumor on ESMB (which was webbed by David Rice, Holysmoke website owner, another one of my defamers who lives in a run down car) that I knew of my kidnapping in advance. I had no clue of it, and I would have done all in my power not being kidnapped. I was badly hurt during that kidnapping. Read the police report and the hospital report. How can anybody fake this torture? http://barbara-schwarz2008.blogspot.com/2010/05/3.html
Hausherr is a liar like Scarff. Even my own sister knew I went with her to safe undeserving Rosemarie's life and had no idea was waiting of me.
APP: Saving her life? What was wrong with her?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I was home with my sister when we got a call that Rosemarie needed her Asthma medicine to prevent her suffocating. I grabbed her electrical inhaler and my sister her meds and then we rushed off to that address. One of the kidnappers locked the door behind me, and I heard my sister drive off. And this was the beginning of the horrible ordeal. After I was badly hurt, and after I screamed for many hours for help, police came finally and arrested them. Vosper and his co-kidnappers got a low sentence because Scientologists generally have no rights in Germany. Hausherr knows that and his hate "work" against Scientology contributes a lot to this situation of no rights for Scientologists. He is a disgusting liar and defamer. Interesting is that Hausherr and Garry Scarff never got along officially. Actually, Garry Scarff posted death threats against Hausherr but Scarff cites Hausherr now as a credible source, and it seems that they rather work for the same dirty goal and source and everything else between them is just spectacle tying to make others believe that they are not agents for the same German Scientology persecuting secret service.
APP: Would you sue Hausherr in Germany?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: No, I want him extradited as German agent against the USA to the USA to stand trial here. Then I want him spent a life sentence with Garry Scarff together in a prison cell. (Laughs) That's what they both deserve.
APP: Somebody put your name on the Encyclopedia Dramatica.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I know. What a cheap website that is. It's like the gutter of mankind! Disgusting. What is published there has felon Brian aka Brielle Bruns aka Trista written all over it. He recommends his own anti-freespeech AHBL FAQ lies on ED that he got a "decent FAQ" on me. Like dummy Neal Warren, he forgets how easy it is for somebody smart to discover who exactly is behind the libel and harassment.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: No, it is not but I think the blog owner did a great job researching Bruns.
APP: K man has some beef with Bruns. Do you know who K man is?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: I guess.
APP: Who is it?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: It is not me, and I think you should ask K man himself.
APP: So, you are not impressed by any of these ESMB posters?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: That says it very mildly. Neither impressed by these who claim being on my side and "having given advice" to me "which I took". I never took any advice of any poster on any hate board. What advice can such people give who waste their lives away posting hatred?
APP: I'd say you are the kind of person who never listens to anyone.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Michelle Sterling posts photos on her website to which she has no copyright, e.g. of me, the real Marty Rathbun, L. Ron Hubbard and probably others. I hope that Michelle Sterling prays every day to a God that likes scum like herself (I don’t know such a God but I believe she believes in such a God if any) that I do not get a large amount of cash any time soon. Because when I get it, I will hire the sharpest lawyer in Australia to compel her to provide the real identities of these defamers and hold the libelers and defamers responsible under the law and ask for a lots of damages. And if she is not able to provide these names, Michelle has to pay the legal tab for any libel, defamation and copyright violation they did because she provided the forum for these anonymous hate mongers for any of the rights violation. I will apply the laws a lot tougher on her than OSA or the RFW did.
APP: It is a small forum with only 53 registered members, is it really worth suing them?
BARBARA SCHWARZ: Absolutely, because their lies, libel, and defamation spreads all over the net, and Sterling, Heldal-Lund, and the WWP moderators provide the forums and do not uphold laws and not even their own rules. They allow lawlessness to happen.
APP: They probably laugh about this interview and your plans to sue them.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: The laughter will stop when they are being served.
APP: Oh well, thanks, Barbara. Always a pleasure. When rich, please make a generous donation to the Anonymous Press Pioneer who has nothing to do with the masked group Anonymous. I don't libel, defame, stalk or harass.
BARBARA SCHWARZ: (laughs) Keep it that way!
